Obama off limits to late night gag writers?
For a pathetic display among late night writers and hosts, check out the International Herald Tribune article, “Want Obama in a punch line? First, find a joke” which says that the reason there are so few Obama jokes on late night shows is that… well… there’s nothing funny about him.
…a fundamental factor is so far missing in Obama: There is no comedic “take” on him, nothing easy to turn to for an easy laugh, like allegations of Bill Clinton’s womanizing, or President George W. Bush’s goofy bumbling or Al Gore’s robotic persona.
We’ll let that sink in.
In the past, monologists of all stripes have told us over and over that comics must lead. They must find the funny where no one else does. That a good chunk of the comic’s mission is to make folks uncomfortable, make them think, challenge their long-held perceptions. Even in late night monologues. At least on HBO or on The Daily Show.
And, even if you don’t buy that late night hosts are duty bound to speak truth to power, they at least have an obligation to make jokes about the powerful and the pompous.
So far, though, they’re scratching their heads and are totally dumbfounded– Gosh! There’s just nothing funny there! And if there were, well, our audiences wouldn’t want to hear it.
“The thing is, he’s not buffoonish in any way.”
“It’s almost like: ‘Hey, don’t go after this guy. He’s a fresh face; cut him some slack.'”
“Anything that has even a whiff of being racist, no one is going to laugh. The audience is not going to allow anyone to do that.”
“People have a tendency to react as far as their ideology allows them.”
“I think some of us were maybe too quick to caricature Al Gore and John Kerry and there’s maybe some reluctance to do the same thing to him.”
What the hell is going on here? How are a bunch of normally wiseass people suddenly struck dumb (and incapable of making the funny) by a one-term senator from Illinois? All of a sudden, our comedians are turning into Harry Belafonte!
The normally vicious (and often unfunnily so) Bill Maher cites the freedom he has– by virtue of his home on pay cable– to make jokes that other might not be able to. But the only gag he comes up with is a weak bowling joke.
Kimmel at least acknowledges that something’s amiss, (“There’s a weird reverse racism going on. You can’t joke about him because he’s half-white. It’s silly.”) But then he says, “I think it’s more a problem because he’s so polished, he doesn’t seem to have any flaws.” It’s jaw-dropping.
If this isn’t a display of cowardice, it’s at least a major abdication of responsibility.
And it’s all the more puzzling because it’s self-censorship. No one is declaring Obama to be off limits. These writers and monologists are all taking it upon themselves to lay off. And, in the process, they’re letting down their audiences.
The author of the piece, Bill Carter, makes the required attempt to attribute the omission to racism, pointing out that the writers, the hosts and the audiences are nearly all white. But this doesn’t wash. Plenty of public figures who are black are lampooned all the time.
The Male Half of the Staff (who is hardly a political comic!) currently has a couple of Obama jokes in his act which have been getting a consistently good response. In front of predominantly white audiences. Two weeks ago, however, in front of several crowds which were one-third to half black, the jokes received a thunderous response. So audiences, both black and white, are more than willing to laugh when Obama is skewered– even when the joke turns on his race,
We theorize that timidity, borne of a toxic and crippling mix of political correctness, guilt and condescension is causing this late night paralysis. What the oft-ridiculed W. might call “the soft bigotry of low comedy expectations.”
The late night hosts and their staffs are engaged in a bizarre and public effort to avoid joking about a public figure. (A public figure who might soon become the most powerful person on the planet.) And we get the uneasy feeling that they’re are not so much incapable of making jokes about Obama as they are unwilling. (Basically, what they’re offering as reasons for their failure are merely excuses, excuses offered with a straight, solemn face.) Has anything this absurd and pitiful ever happened before?
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Maybe intelligent people want the country to go a different direction so badly that they are afraid to knock a guy who is going to have a tough enough time getting elected by white America.Just a thought.
ej:The day that humorists sit in the corner and gaze, moon-eyed upon a presidential candidate (and hold off making jokes about him based on some ridiculous notion that if they were to make a joke or two about him he might not get elected) is the day that this nation has lost a valuable feature– its sense of humor.If humorists are “afraid to knock a guy,” then they are being way too cautious. We count on them to not be “afraid.”And, just for the record, a person can be “intelligent” and also wish to vote for any of a number of people beside Barack Obama.Also: If Barack Obama knew what was good for him (and for the country), he would encourage people to make fun of him. This would demonstrate that both he and the country have a sense of humor. Woe to the presidential candidate who fails to display a sense of humor about himself or who declares himself above jokes– we tend not to elect such people.The formula you hint at– a moratorium on jokes about a man running for president so that “intelligent people” can get what they want– is a simplistic, revolting and bleak one. This country and its people are much better than such a scenario gives them credit for.
You have material on Obama and, maybe coincidentally, your sympathies lie with his opponent (I’m guessing, anyway, based on many of your posts). Do you have similar material on McCain (other than jokes about being old, like they used to do with Reagan)? If not, is it so unreasonable that those who like Obama wouldn’t want to make jokes about him? I don’t watch a lot of talk show monologues, but certainly The Daily Show and The Colbert Report do their share from what I’ve seen.
We only mention the Male Half’s material to demonstrate that monologists need not be afraid to make jokes about Obama. Even jokes that touch upon his race. In front of a mixed-race crowd of Ohio comedy fans.The idea is not to make jokes about someone because you want him to lose or refrain from making jokes about him because you want him to win.The idea is to make jokes about the powerful. We have a healthy disdain in this country for the powerful. It is a good part of the reason for the nation’s success.The contention that they’re not making jokes about a presidential candidate (the Democratic nominee!) because their’s nothing funny about him or that he is “flawless,” is so disingenuous as to be startling.So it must come down to fear or ideology. Neither of which bodes well for standup or for the nation.For comedians on late night shows to exhibit such fear, to pull their punches merely because they “like Obama,” is a sign that they’ve totally abdicated, at the very least,their responsibility to be equal opportunity ball busters. To lay off of Obama is potentially dangerous. We are not in the habit of creating sacred cows in America. Now is not the time to start.Plenty of hosts were relentless in their chiding of Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was beloved by many of those same hosts. Perhaps Clinton was perceived as able to sustain such ribbing. (If we accept that premise, then we must deal with the obverse– that Obama is perceived as unable to sustain the ribbing. Which is the “soft bigotry of low comedy expectations” spoken of earlier.)If it’s a matter of monologists cowering because of a fear of being labeled “racist,” then we’re in even worse trouble than we thought. This fear of being branded as a racist is a tangible result of the tyranny of political correctness gone wild over the past 20 years.In 1984, and again in 1988, there was no shortage of Jesse Jackson jokes. In his attempt to win the Democratic nomination in 84, he won five contests. In 88, he won 11. If we’re to believe that he didn’t win the nomination because of the joking, how do we explain George W. Bush’s wins in the face of the blizzard of W. jokes?And again, if the hosts are reluctant to make Obama jokes for fear of being called racist, the solution, it would seem, would be simple: Make jokes about him which do not hinge on his race.If a joke about Obama– any joke– is now deemed racist, then we are dealing with an unhealthy fixation on race, but not in the way that everyone thinks. Such hypersensitivity is misguided and quite possibly harmful to the candidate and devastating to real dialogue and real solutions.We’re puzzled though. There seems to be no shortage of jokes about contemporary black figures– Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas, O.J. Simpson, Oprah Winfrey, Magic Johnson. The motivation of those who make the vast majority of those jokes is never called into question.Why should we treat Barack Obama differently? Making such an exception is an unhealthy thing for the nation, the audiences… and especially for comedians.
You’re wrong on this one, McKim, and you should drop all your Obama jokes immediately.There’s absolutely no material there; Barack Obama is a guy who is immensely likeable amongst his supporters, apparently politically inexperienced next to his opponent, had used cocaine as a young man, and is being used by his supporters as a vessel to tag all of their own hopes and personal political pecadillos on as if he’s the foretold savior of the United States, instead of a just another middle-of-the-road candidate towing the line of the party he represents.Left wing, Right wing…same goddamned bird.
There’s the old Will Rogers way of going about things where you make fun of all politicians. Seems fair or the surface but what you’re really doing is cutting the real pricks slack. Obama hasn’t screwed up yet in a major way so why go after him full on until he does? Aren’t there enough folks really making huge mistakes in office that should be taking up your time as a comedy writer? Instead of being “fair” by attacking both left and right why not be actually fair by going after those that deserve it?
“Obama hasn’t screwed up yet in a major way?”We rest our case.
Not compared to the ones currently running things. It’s been a clusterfuck eight years with the current gang and that’s going to draw the attention of a comedian more than pointing out Obama hasn’t got much experience. What’s the angle you take knocking him? Maybe there is some fruit for the picking. But a comedian trying to dig up something just to give the appearance of being balanced? That’s bullshit.That’s trying to be fair at the expense of being true. Obama’s going to make mistakes and comedians will go after him when he does. Wait it out.
No one said comics shouldn’t make fun of Obama. Have at it. Maybe it will be your niche.I just offered a possible explanation as to why they haven’t so far (according to your original post).Fear? Yeah, fear of where our country has gone over the last 7-plus years, and where it might still go.You’re “puzzled,” Shecky Mag, because your logic is flawed, such as comparing Jesse Jackson to Barack Obama.Jackson never had a realistic chance. It appears Obama does.And to compare joking about an in-office white president with a striving black candidate is another example of flawed thinking.But you will have the last word.
You really do come into these chats with blinders on. You’re outraged and it doesn’t matter what the reasons people might have for what’s creating the situation that’s pissing you off, the outrage is the point! Yeah make fun of Obama’s ears, great stuff. Maybe get some first grade kids together to fire off some more of those gems. Obama looks weird and McCain’s old. How about if you can’t think of something worthwhile to joke about, don’t do the joke? Don’t just make fun to make fun because you want to evenly coat the paint on everyone but instead go after those worth going after. The ones who have been screwing up? Is that so nuts? Why dumb TV down any more?
“I don’t know what people have against Jimmy Carter. He’s done nothing.” — Bob HopeOnce again, urban improv, you miss the point.Your blind rage at Bushy McChimpHitler is not the point. What “a comedian” does is not the point. The “truth” is not the point. Balance for the sake of balance is not the point.We’re talking about the jaw-dropping spectacle of a gang of late-night television hosts and their staffs saying with a straight face that there’s no jokes to be made about a man who is seeking to occupy the oval office.They’re saying that he’s flawless.The point is not how much the current administration has screwed up. The point is not how much Obama has or has not yet screwed up.The point is that a bunch of professionals on television who have managed to find something humorous about every politician since Eisenhower are suddenly struck dumb.And the further point is that they have come up with rather lame excuses for their paralysis.“Maybe there is some fruit for the picking?” Seriously? Have you been paying any attention?Kimmel had it partly right: Have you seen the man’s ears? If nothing else, they might pick on his physical appearance. Or his oratorical style. Or maybe make jokes about the fact that he is “flawless,” if that’s your opinion of him.We’re not talking about curing cancer here. We’re talking about crafting some ephemeral, topical gags for an opening monologue about one of the most recognizable people on the planet who is seeking the highest office in the U.S.But… that is not the point, either. This is not a seminar on how to write Obama jokes.We have linked to an article in the IHT that says that the staffers are scratching their heads and absolutely confounded (or paralyzed by fear) when it comes to writing material about a man who is the current frontrunner for POTUS.Either way– frightened or stumped– they’re in a bad way.“I’ve now been in 57 states — I think one left to go.” — Barack ObamaWe’re not talking about any eight-year clusterfuck here. Leno, Letterman and Ferguson aren’t supposed to save the world. But we do count on them to make with the funny about the people we see on the nightly news and the people we’re trying to make up our minds about.To ej:You do Jesse Jackson a disservice by saying that he “never had a realistic chance.” He was a factor in the 88 election and, according to his Wikipedia entry, “Some news accounts credit him with 13 wins. Briefly, after he won 55% of the vote in the Michigan Democratic caucus, he was considered the frontrunner for the nomination, as he surpassed all the other candidates in total number of pledged delegates.”So the analogy is quite apt.And, as we said before, hosts making jokes about someone should not depend on whether or not he or she has a “realistic chance.” They shouldn’t joke primarily to even up the score and they shouldn’t lay off someone because he’s lagging in the polls or because he may belong to a historically opressed group. They should be razzing him because he has the audacity to ask for a majority of this country’s vote in a quest for the White House.As for comparing Obama jokes to W. jokes, we’re talking about the gags that were made before the first election in 2000. The jokes about our current president started long before he was in office. As they should have.So, again, the comparison is hardly flawed.
Obama 08′-the first presidential campaign “powered” by Nike.White liberal guilt-Fascism with sandalsBarack Obama comes across more up-tight than my father after his sex change operation.Why couldn’t our first black president be Ernie Hudson? I mean, have you seen ROBOCOP?I simply can’t trust a black man who’s doesn’t smoked a little weed every now and then.Here’s a few “jokes” about the man. It’s not impossible.(I’m using the word joke very loosely)
If the writers had just come out and said, “We can’t joke about him, because we want him to win,” we’d respect that a little more than, “We can’t figure out how to write material about him.” Writers who say that lose all credibility.As comics, we can (and often do) make jokes about anything/everything– death, war, murder, mayhem– so their plaint that the man is jokeproof is totally bogus.And, to urban improv:We’re not the one with blinders on. We’re not the ones with rage. We are quite reasonable and logical. Look inward. And, after you’re done looking inward, go read something else.To the good doctor:Our comments and posts are written jointly here at SHECKYmag HQ. When you address “McKim,” you are leaving one-half of the staff out.
The man is already reversing his policies on half of the issues that won him the primary.I guess the only REAL change Obama will bring come November is the monogram on the White House bath towelsI wonder if anyone has ever said that before? I guess I’m a hack and don’t even know it 🙁
I refuse to bash John McCain simply because he was a prisoner of war in Hoa Lo Prison in North Vietnam for five and a half years.He was presumably chained, whipped, and strangled by dozens of aggresive Asian men.No wonder he refused to leave when he could. The old bastard loved him some Cum-Pow!
My mistake.I meant to challenge your comparison of candidate Obama to in-office president Clinton (not Bush II), but I did not make that clear.Do you remember Jesse Jackson’s run?Do you really think he had any chance to be elected?Screw wickipedia.Hey, make all the jokes you want about Obama.Maybe it’ll pan out for you. Better than your railing about the lack of same.Also, I’m wondering,when both you Sheckies respond here, who types which keys?
Thanks for the tip, Seward pal.Whatever it meant.
Screw Wikipedia?While we are skeptical of nearly everything we read on Wikipedia, many of the more important/potentially controversial entries are heavily edited and vetted. And, in many cases, we do click on those little blue numbers, just to make sure.In the case of the Jesse Jackson, the factoid we cited originated in the Washington Post article < HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/26/AR2007122601888.html" REL="nofollow">“The Steepest Climb<> by Kevin Merida, from December of last year.<>“On his second attempt, Jackson won 13 primaries and caucuses, doubled his total votes to 7 million and took 29 percent of the total primary vote. He finished a strong runner-up to Democratic nominee Michael Dukakis, who reeled in campaign contributions at four times the rate of Jackson.”<>Shall we screw the Washington Post?And, as for your “Hey, make all the jokes you want about Obama” statement, we must remind you: We cited the Male Half’s jokes merely to prove that it’s possible to do jokes about Obama, to a mainstream, racially mixed audience and get a response. (That would be the second time we’ve repeated this.)In other words, it’s not about the Male Half (or any other comic) doing Obama jokes, it’s about the writing staffs and the hosts of network TV shows writing/doing Obama jokes.And, of course, Clinton jokes started long before he took office. In 1988, he was razzed pretty good for his speech at that year’s Democratic Convention nominating Michael Dukakis. (If memory serves us, the redfaced, not-yet-pudgy Clinton even made an appearance on Carson after that speech during which the host busted his chops for his overlong performance.)
There’s a danger in making comics feel self-conscious about having to be equal opportunity offenders. If they feel the responsibility to balance out the topics of the jokes they make, regardless of which side is better fodder for humor, it’s just being dishonest with the audience. If all I can come up with for Obama are crowbarred mixed-race jokes, or bits based on media-contrived controversies that I’d feel uncomfortable further propagating, or rah-rah patriotic rants that make me feel sleezy, why would I bother telling them in front of a crowd, if I have stronger material that actually fits my point of view? I’ve seen harmless Obama jokes on TDS and Letterman get greeted with boos. Part of the problem is that his followers are so vigilant about potential Swift-Boat style attacks, they’ll try to hush any criticism that is based on any sort of seemingly unfair attack. Joke about Reverend Wright? “Booooo! That’s just a right-wing media created controversy to distract us from the important issues!” Joke about his wife, flag pins, Muslim schooling, or the pledge of allegiance? “Booooo! More falsehoods meant to distract America!” You can make “McCain sure is old” jokes, because all of us get old, and he’s one of the oldest candidates in history. You can make fun of his awkward public demeanor, because it IS creepy and offputing . There is no humorous “Obama stereotypes” analog to the McCain stereotypes. Most of us can’t make “Obama sure is half-black!” jokes unless jokes about race already play an important part in our acts. You can’t make “Obama sure is a polished orator!” jokes, because there’s nothing funny there, short of mocking the praise he receives.
Isn’t the fact that Obama comes across like an arrogant, self-absorbed, typical politician the PERFECT basis for at least some type of humorous critisisim? God I hope so.And let’s not forget the fact that he, along with Mccain, will say and do ANYTHING to pander and thus brainwash dimwitted Americans. I would’t be surprised to see the Obama campaign to be sponsored by Mcdonalds. Or Mccain to hold fundraisers at the Home Depot.We’re not voting for an actual person here, we’re voting for a figure head. Something that represents to us compassion instead of someone who wants to truly improve people’s daily lives.Now I’m depressed~
I think one of the issues may be that the comics and writers like him SO much that they don’t want to make him look bad. Yes, he is charismatic, likable and comes across as highly polished. That is, until he doesn’t have a script in front of him. In that way he has a lot in common with Reagan. Speaking off the cuff, and explaining himself when challenged is not his strong point at this time. He stutters, stumbles, mumbles, and can come across as if he has no clue what he’s talking about. String together a few of those spots, and he might look as bumbling as Bush.His youth and inexperience are also fair game, and are ripe for ribbing. A one-term senator on the verge of the presidency? Where are the “oh no I’m crapping my pants in fear!” jokes? Additionally, being considered the most liberal member of the Senate is a legitimate angle of humor, whether you like liberals or not. “He’s so liberal that…”Any of us could come up with a dozen lame one-liners about any of these topics. Surely the highly-paid and much more experienced late night writing staffs can cobble together a decent zinger or two every night. Or are they afraid it might actually work against him getting elected?
I think that’s it exactly, the hosts and writers don’t want to bring this guy down like Gore and Kerry. The talk shows have a lot of power in influencing the public. Maybe they feel a bit responsible for the current situation. Will Ferrell doing Bush on SNL made the guy kinda likable for example. The “he’s too inexperienced” bit doesn’t fly because neither was Bush and “I’m crapping my pants in fear” doesn’t work when you’ve been crapping them for years. I’m not writing this in a “rage”. You’re the one who gets outraged by things that will soon fix themselves. These things go in waves. Talk show hosts didn’t want to be funny after 9/11 it felt disrespectful. Maybe that’s what this is, they don’t want to attack someone they respect until he does something to earn that attack. You can make “big ear” jokes or generic politician gags in the meantime if you want but what’s the point? We have four television shows in Canada that go after politicians and the ones that have balance for balance’s sake just end up toothless. Please cut and paste some past remarks you’ve made about how I’ve missed the point and how Canada and America have nothing to do with each other. Sorry, that was just me going off in a “rage”.