On TheOuterNet.com and other sites
We received a heads up from comedian Bruce Baum on the rollout of his new comedy-centric networking site TheOuterNet.com. From the press release:
From the guy who brought you BabyMan, Dimples The Cow, Chiaman, and of course, literary phenom, Ted L. Nancy, now comes TheOuterNet.com, a uniquely friendly comedy destination that features original content videos, along with shorts and blogs from the TheOuterNet community of “nuts” (friends). TheOuterNet.com also features games, off-beat profiles, and a burgeoning community of creative outer-there “nuts.”
Designed by Bruce Baum and web-designer extraordinaire Jack Douglas, TheOuternet.com is a very happy hangout for your head. In fact, several doctors have suggested that visiting TheOuterNet.com several times a week, couldn’t hurt.
Baum was among the video artists in residence at Fox’s “The Sunday Comics” television show in 1991 and 1992. (Others included Gilbert Gottfried, Rich Hall and Ric Overton.) He did similar work at ABC. We worked with Baum for a week at the Riv in Vegas a couple years back.
Much of Baum’s work from his Fox days is included among the video offerings on the site, as are his new productions like “Bald Like Me.” Those wishing to join (or become “nuts,” in the site’s vernacular) need only fill out a short form and commence to uploading pics, videos and other materials. (We were assured by Baum that the artist retains all rights to his works.)
Are niche networking/video sites like this the future of the internet? Only time will tell. We’ve been pondering the direction of business/social networking sites lately and we have come to a few conclusions:
1. MySpace is in danger of flaming out. The novelty has worn off. The initial enthusiasm has been replaced by a feeling of obligation. It’s one more site that has to been maintained, checked, pruned, tended to. We’ve noticed that the bulletins seem less exciting, less useful, more predictable. Even the simple communication function seems to be utilized less. What was so wrong with email, anyway?
2. There are too many social and/or business networking sites competing for our membership. The Male Half and the Female Half currently have invitations to LinkedIn, Hi5, Plaxo and FaceBook. So, sooner or later, a decision must be made as to which are worth working with and which are not. There are, after all, so many hours in the day.
3. Can anyone tell anyone else exactly what the practical purpose of LinkedIn is? As an experiment, The Male Half took the LinkedIn plunge. And, after many months and many invitations accepted, he still can’t honestly say what practical advantage can be had by joining the network and maintaining it. And he was relieved to know that others are similarly perplexed. (And the foggy, mushy mystery of the usefulness of that network is the subject of many a vicious blog posting across the internet.)
4. The same goes for FaceBook. As an experiment, The Female Half created a FaceBook profile. As a social networking site, it might be peachy, but as a marketing tool it is an utter failure. (“If you have to be friends with someone to view his/her profile, what good is it?” she asks.)
None of these complaints can be filed under “Crotchety Oldsters Who Don’t Understand The Internets”– we’ve been online for 13 years as of next month, so we’re familiar with the conventions of the WWW and we’re savvy when it comes to user interfaces and the general thrust of most online initiatives. (Indeed, we’re semi-familiar with most or all these innovations before they become cultural phenomena.) But we eventually crunch the numbers and examine the ratio of time spent in maintenance to benefits and, for a lot of these sites, the numbers don’t add up.
YouTube is successful because it is so useful. It does something for you that you couldn’t do yourself (host a video and exhibit it simply). But it is so vast, and its offerings so diverse, that you must do the marketing. It is up to you to drive people to your video or to your channel. TheOuterNet takes that concept and narrows the focus and has a more sharply defined mission.
Baum’s narrowly-focused site is, of course, an excellent vehicle for promoting his own video output, but it also hopes to highlight the work of other comedians. And he insists that the site’s personal touch– with Baum himself regularly touting newly-added clips on the front page– will be what differentiates it from other corporate sites like Funny Or Die, making it more of an online television show than a sprawling aggregator site. “Other sites are trying to be WalMart,” Baum says. “We’re trying to be Trader Joe’s.”
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Linked in is more about corporate jobs. My boss uses it, and you can network with people in corporate quite easily (you can get online job recommendations, etc).Not much use to a comic (although you can find people who work in corporate comedy, like people who work at Comedy Central)
<>The practical purpose of Facebook<>Facebook was originally designed to show the face of students in your college (like the hard copy photo book distributed to freshmen on campus) and add their interests and background to help you get to know them better. It later opened up to high school students and served as an online yearbook. It allowed you to add photos, which worked like an online scrapbook. Then applications with games like Scrabble and Chess were introduced so you could have new ways to show minimal attention to the people you barely know (I still don’t understand poking). Finally they made it available to all people in order to compete with myspace.com’s widespread use.All this to say, it’s a better spying site than networking site. You can disable most features so that people can’t bother you, just like in real life.For comedians to get their material viewed, it’s best to use your own website or a site that will allow you to upload your content for free (dailymotion.com, rooftopcomedy.com or funnyordie.com). I used to belong to Nextcat.com for its ease of use, but it was tailored for actors. Reverbnation.com is good for sending mass mails, but it’s tailored for musicians.You have to find the networking site that’s right for you, and then remember that networking still works best in person. Most comedians are on facebook and myspace because it is a way to get exposure to young fans. In theory, if you want maximum exposure at minimal cost, put an identical profile and content on every site available. It’s like a commercial that airs everywhere. Don’t forget to keep an Excel spreadsheet of passwords.
I agree with your assessment of social networking sites. The only reason I use YouTube and MySpace is because I can’t post videos on my free Earthlink web site. And, yes, I have gotten jobs as a result of someone seeing my videos on YouTube or MySpace.
LinkedIn is supposed to be for job networking, yet there’s no easy way to e-mail your network unless you ask a “question.”
I’ve avoided joining other networking sites because, as you said, it’s one more thing to keep track of.
Actually, i think you’re looking in the wrong place when it comes to Facebook. Facebook profiles are for individuals; it’s Facebook pages that should be used for marketing. These are viewable by everyone and allow you to post gig dates, photos, videos, and much more. I think that actually makes Facebook much better than other social networking sites, as it separates personal profiles (which should be secure and only viewable by friends) from fan pages (which should be open to all and contain things like schedules and other performer info).
Pagliaci talks of a “Facebook page” and says it’s more useful than a Facebook profile when it comes to marketing. We would like to know more about this. We are skeptical that it exists. There has been a lot of complaining by Facebook denizens– they are bemoaning certain recent changes, although they don’t go into specifics. Could it be that the feature Pagliaci speaks of was eliminated? And that is one of the changes that the Facebookers are up in arms about? Let us know.
Thanks for the tip on pages, Pagliacci and Myq. I’m going to check that out at home tonight. (Had to repost comment to give credit to both bloggers).
Pages exist.
Fan pages exist for loads of comedians, bands, politicians, celebrities, all kinds of people.They are great.If you go into the search box at the top of the screen and type “pages” and then click on “pages,” it will say “create a page?” and you can create one.
There might be a different way to find out information about them besides using the “search” function, but that’s what I did.
PS Be a fan of Myq Kaplan, everyone.
PPS I like SheckyMagazine.com for its marketing capacities.
early social networking adopters have moved to twitter.
micro blogging is where it is at.
less intrusive. less maintenance. more intimate relationship with your “followers”.
post video’s elsewhere (vimeo/youtube) and then promote the new posting through twitter.
the problem is that until a true winner is found it may take another 5 years of evolution until this new media makes sense.
Social sites give us (comics) something relatively new. A legitimate place to build a personal brand and share it with tons of people. We just have to figure out how to use the sites to our benefit. Don’t give up on these great tools!
And Myspace is far from dead…Myspace