They have no shame
Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse.
The comedy club (and we use that term advisedly) that opened up in the former Rascals spot in Cherry Hill, NJ (just seven minutes from where we live), has sunk to a heretofore unimaginable depth. They’re advertising “The Best Bringer Show” on their website.
That’s right– it’s not just a shitty bringer show, no, no, no! It’s the best bringer show.
This would be an abuse of the English language, because using the word “best” implies “good” to begin with. And there ain’t nothing good about a bringer show. Especially a bringer show on a weekend!
We ask the question: Is there a better way to thoroughly bone your customers– and thoroughly taint comedy in South Jersey, quite possibly forever– by charging customers top dollar to see a weekend show that is populated mainly with amateurs whose only qualification for being onstage is that they were able to intimidate, harass and harangue their “friends” into paying to see them embarrass themselves on a comedy club stage.)
The answer, sadly, is “YES!” (If you are Sarcasm proprietor Steve Trevelise.) Turn the whole thing into an audition. The website promotes their Friday, March 5, show by throwing in the tagline, “Get noticed by a talent scout!”
When you click for details, you’re treated to the following:
Sarcasm believes “Bringer Shows” should be a win-win situation. so on Friday March 5th
Sarcasm presents a special “Bringer” show for experienced comics only. Suzy Yengo owner of the Catch A Rising Star National Chain and Prime Time Comedy Club in Sayreville will be in attendance and scouting new talent.
In order to get on stage you must be at least an emcee and must bring at least 8 people… no exceptions.
You will receive 5-7 minutes stagetime, make it count.
Sign ups through “Contact Us” will be fist (sic) come first serve.
Everyone who performs will receive 20 dollars.
get NoTiceD get PAID
ONLY AT SARCASM
We’re reminded of the scene from Fox’s (sadly) short-lived television series Action where, during a pitch session, Jay Mohr‘s Peter Dragon character presents the Beverly Hills Gun Club prayer shawl to the rabbi. The rabbi says, with a mixture of anger, confusion, weariness and pragmatism, “This is wrong on so many levels.”
It’s not bad enough he’s torturing paying, weekend customers with an open-mike night (customers who also have a two-item minimum, with some of the highest prices we’ve ever seen at a comedy club, including those in NYC), but it’s a bringer show.
On top of that, he’s incentivized the poor amateur bastards in the region by dangling a “talent scout” in front of them. Of course, this is something that any decent comedy club does for its local talent… but it doesn’t charge them for the privelege! (Oh, sure, technically, the comedians aren’t “charged,” and they’re given $20, but they’re called upon to spend their time and energy and their social capital to rope five or eight or a dozen audience members into paying admission to what is basically an open-mike night.)
This whole thing makes Trevelise quite possibly the sleaziest (or, perhaps the dumbest) comedy club owner to ever walk the earth. Suzy Yengo should be embarrassed to be part of this trainwreck. As the owner of a “national chain” of comedy clubs, she surely has other ways of finding talent. That she would consent to be part of this abomination speaks volumes.
The typo in the bringer show copy– “Signups will be fist come first serve.”– is unintentionally illuminating. Trevelise has nothing but contempt for comedians. Schemes like this prove it.
Charging your local talent (when you’re not located in New York or Los Angeles) quite clearly demonstrates that you are not only oblivious to business realities, but that you are woefully out of touch when it comes to the very real and very necessary role that your club plays in nurturing new talent among the local and regional comedians.
We’ve always said that a comedy club should not only serve up top-notch comedy talent to its customers (within its budget, of course), but that its stage should be the entry point for aspiring comedians and comedians who are in need of a stage for the purpose of honing material, practicing TV spots, auditioning for gigs, etc. It takes time, energy and care to cultivate this kind of situation. But the payoff for the club and the benefit to the comedians is immeasurable. There is a symbiotic relationship between a club and the local comedians that benefits both. Severing this relationship (or perverting it) hurts both. If your business model doesn’t allow a straight-up open mike, that’s unfortunate. If your business model demands that you exploit the local comics like “The Best Bringer Show” does, then either your business model (or your ethics) is/are hopelessly flawed.
The best comedy clubs recognize this relationship. The worst ones ignore it and concoct hideous scenarios like the one detailed above.
Everyone we’ve spoken to about this (and similar) shows is justifiably horrified by the implications, not just for the immediate market but for the rest of the comedy business as a whole. If this kind of underhanded garbage were to gain any ground, the comedy business would be kneecapped.
The only thing that might stop it from spreading might be that it’s so obviously backward and damaging (to the local talent pool and to the unsuspecting customers and to the business at large) that it will probably be briefly considered and quickly discarded as the trashy scheme that it is.
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A reader sent along an email detailing a scheme by a Bay area comedy club, the rules for which were shotgunned out to the club’s mailing list.
It proposed that comedians wishing to get on the bill (for a “guest set”) for an upcoming show (with a national headliner) could increase their chances by selling tickets to the show. The one who sold the most tickets had his choice of guesting Friday or Saturday. The second runner-up got the other night’s guest spot.
Comics working on commission. Wow.
If the club is too lazy (or too tight-fisted or too stupid) to do its own marketing, it will hasten its demise by putting comedians on its stage whose main qualification is that he/she was able to hustle up a bunch of ticket sales.
Usta be that comics got a guest set because the club management wanted to take a look and determine if the comic was ready for an actual paying spot on a future bill.
Now, you can buy or hustle your way onto a professional stage.
Although, with schemes like this, we can’t really apply the word “professional” to that stage much longer.
Well said!
I always liked the quote by Doug Stanhope (I’m paraphrasing) that said if you could get fifty people to pay ten dollars to see you, what do you need the club for? Pocket the $500 and perform as long as you like. There was some discussion on SandpaperSuit.com (blog by comedian Matt Ruby) about whose responsibility it is to supply / attract audience: the talent, the producer or the venue. This is in the context of free shows in restaurants/bars/ coffee shops, where the venue and the producers of the show are separate.
Abbi:
You speak the truth.
But our beef with Sarcasm is that they’re doing some very wrong things that have nothing to do with comedians of Stanhope’s caliber.
The bringer show (outside of NYC or LA) places much of the burden for filling the room on the talent… Talent which is quite often new to standup (or, in some rare, hideous cases, has never done standup even once).
And quite often the venue/club that does a bringer often lifts not one finger to get people in the seats.
In the case of Sarcasm, they do this… on a WEEKEND NIGHT. With rare exceptions, a comedy club makes its money on Friday and Saturday. Friday and Saturday in America are the two nights when you can expect folks to go out and spend their money.
What could possibly go wrong? MANY things.
Comedy club patrons should have an expectation that they’ll see experienced comedians on a weekend show. If they see predominantly amateurs, they’ll suspect that all comedy is at that level.
If inexperienced comedians perform only in front of people they bring, they’ll never learn how to perform in front of a roomful of strangers. (Which is a handy skill to have for that time in your career between when you gain some standup skills and that time when you perform in front of a roomful of people who are there specifically to see YOU.)
Sarcasm may spend some money on advertising and some POS materials, but that may be all for naught if the resultant audience is subjected to an open mike. (Or, in some cases, a show that doesn’t even rise to the level of an open mike– some of the bringer performers might have never actually been on a comedy stage! Don’t get us wrong: Often an open mike show can be wildly entertaining and satisfying, if it’s hosted well, if it’s controlled, if the performers are being monitored and nurtured by someone who knows what they’re doing.)
As for the burden of atracting an audience, that’s a whole other discussion. We’ve always been of the opinion that there are basically two comedy club models: A club that offers “name” comics who have TV credits or some sort of recognition factor. Or a club whose “product” is consistently funny, professional and entertaining comedians. Both models take time, effort, money and skill, but the money and skills are different for each.
The owner who employs the second model understands that his talent might not be a “draw,” so he acts as a “curator” of comedy– he forms a pact with potential customers, assuring them that he has gone to great lengths to choose good acts. His product is not a specific comedian, but an endless procession of solid, professional comedians that will deliver. Rather like a venue that books musical acts that do not yet have a major label deal. They can’t bring in Vampire Weekend, but they can bring in the band that aspires to the success and excellence of Vampire weekend.
These venues understand that it is the venue and its implicit promise that are the draw, not any particular act.