Last Comic Standing Finale
Congratulations to Felipe Esparza!
He’s this season’s “Last Comic Standing.”
It must be tough– unbearably tough– to come so close to $250,000 and not get it. Our hearts go out to Myk Kaplan, Mike DeStefano, Roy Wood, Jr., and Tommy Johnagin.
And, while a quarter of a million bucks might seem like a large sum to someone who has been making the standard road money that’s available out there, it’s small change in the larger entertainment scheme of things.
But the confetti hadn’t even hit the Alex Theatre stage before rumors ricocheted around the WWW about how this season was “rigged,” because Esparza is managed by New Wave… and New Wave is headed by Barry Katz… and Barry Katz is one of the executive producersof the Last Comc Standing.
But we have to ask: Is the fact that he’s managed by New Wave the sole reason that Esparza won the competition?
And, conversely, if management by New Wave were the sole prerequisite for winning the competition, wouel not all of the show’s past winners be comics who are managed by New Wave.
So… not all the winners have been managed by New Wave. And not all the finalists have been New Wave clients. So, if you’re going to “fix” the show, and you’re going to expose yourself to all kinds of enmity (or legal challenges), then why not just go whole hog and fix it real good– ensure that all ten finalists are under the New Wave banner and make damn sure that your company benefits from managing the winner, the five touring comedians and the ten folks who get the most primetime network television exposure– week in and week out– over the course of a long summer.
All of this talk of “rigging” and “fixing” only makes sense if we select which bits of data to pay attention to and ignore a lot of other data.
A prime example of this selective focus is illustrated in the speculation that’s making the rounds centering on tortured language from the NBC website.
The heart of the controversy seems to stem from the following passages in the “Voting Rules” section. The same basic rules are then restated in the Voting FAQ. (Note: “The Administrators” are “NBC Studios, Inc., NBC Universal, Inc. and/or Telescope, Inc. and their respective parent, subsidiary and affiliated entities and persons”):
These rules are subject to change at any time at the sole discretion of the Administrators. Notification regarding any such change will be posted at NBC.com.[…]
5. Conditions for Voting:
Administrators reserve the right to disqualify, block or remove any votes from any individual who votes by any electronic, mechanical or automated means, or otherwise tampers with the vote process, or for any other reason, as determined by Administrators in their sole discretion. Administrators are not responsible for any damages to voters’ device(s) that may occur from use of service. Administrators reserve the right, for any reason and in their sole discretion, to modify, suspend or discontinue the voting service without prior notice.Administrators reserve the right to modify the show’s contest rules, and the terms and conditions of this voting process at any time in their sole discretion.
The amateur detectives conveniently leave out this paragraph, however:
Caution: Any attempt by an entrant or any other individual to deliberately damage any online service or website, tamper with the voting process, or otherwise undermine the legitimate operation of the voting is a violation of criminal and civil laws and should such an attempt be made, Administrators reserve the right to seek damages and/or other remedies from any such person to the fullest extent permitted by law.
Emphasis ours. We’re no legal experts. But this sounds like it bursts the conspiracy theorists’ bubble. It initially reads like something that’s inserted to aid the Administrators in preventing fraud. But we maintain that it could also prohibit fraud on the part of the Administrators. It could subject them to prosecution should they be tempted to manipulate the peoples’ vote.
The other conspiracy theory revolves around the idea that the show is cast. The theory is that the producers of the show very carefully and deliberately manipulate the early rounds of the show to determine who ends up among the forty or fifty “contestants” who vie for the ten Finalist spots.
Of course they do!
Is there an objective way to determine the fifty funniest people in America? Is there a special, magic “Applause Meter” out there somewhere that would precisely and correctly calibrate audience reaction during the evening showcase (ignoring, via some sort of algorithm, the applause from the people that contestant number three packed into the audience through his carefully orchestrated Facebook and Twitter campaign)? Is there a Standup Comics Registry that calculates and maintains rankings via a finely tuned system, like those of the USTA or the USGA?
If the show weren’t “cast,” what means of stocking the show would the conspiracy theorists recommend? Perhaps they have in mind a Blue Ribbon panel of experts. Who, then, would determine the makeup of that august body? Perhaps it would be a carefully chosen panel of universally respected agents, managers and talent coordinators that would submit candidates for inclusion in the showcases. Good luck finding anyone who would fit that description.
And even if great care were taken to pick the hopefuls– using whichever fantasy method you can concoct– could we find two comics who would agree on the legitimacy of even a handful of the choices? No matter which way were chosen, controversy would exist and theories would abound.
There’s no perfect system.
It’s Chinatown, Jake. It’s television. It’s comedy.
And the same data that some folks use to prove the illegitimacy of the contest might be seen by others as proving its legitimacy. One case in point: “Look at the winners over the years! That proves that the wrong people won. That proves that America’s votes were ignored! That proves that those most deserving were shafted!”
Actually, one might look at some or all of the winners and could just as easily claim quite the opposite: “Look at the winners over the past seven seasons! That proves that the right people won! That proves that America’s votes were taken into account! That proves that those most deserving were elevated to the status of America’s funniest comedians!”
Everybody’s all over the map!
Comedy, we might remind everyone for the thousandth time, is subjective. And that tiny sliver of the people who watch the show (and who care enough to go to the trouble to vote for a winner) vote in ways which seem to many people to be illogical or capricious or just plain wrong. Perhaps everyone else in the top ten have fans who aren’t the kind of people who vote ten times on the phone, then cross the room to vote ten times on their computer.
All of which is not to say that Felipe Esparza didn’t deserve to win. No one “deserves” to win. Expunge that word from your vocabulary when discussing this phenomenon. Esparza won. There are people who are ecstatic about that and there are people who are groaning about that. But that would have happened no matter who won. And the people who groan shop around for bits of “evidence” that they (and their favorite) have been somehow wronged.
We are of the opinion that such controversy is good. We stated privately that each of the five remaining finalists were competent enough and handled themselves professionally enough during the finals so that enough of the viewing audience might have voted in such a way as to make any of them the ultimate winner. And that is good for standup. Were there a clear winner– were there no doubt that one comedian was superior and the rest were merely also-rans– it would have been a dark day for comedy indeed, for it would have meant that the contest was a failure and that standup comedy (at least as reflected in the makeup of the finalists) was in a sorry state.
Fortunately, that wasn’t the case. Any of the five could have won.
Are we saying all this to suck up to the producers? Certainly not. (Besides, we’re not so sure there’s any payoff in doing so.) We’re just trying to introduce a little reality into the analysis of a “reality show.”
As far as the rest of last night’s finale goes, the musical numbers in general (and Gloria Gaynor’s number in particular) were painful. We were particularly nauseated by the shots of the judges “grooving” to the beat and the clutch of remaining finalists “grooving” in the wings. Couldn’t that time been better used to show more comedians? Instead of handing over a bronzed rubber chicken to Kurt Metzger, how about letting Metzger do a tight five instead? We’re not clear as to the connection (other than Craig Robinson’s musical avocation/alter ego) between these musical numbers and standup comedy. (And what was the theory behind dressing the Finalists up in their “Sunday-go-to-meetin’ ” clothes? They looked like some sort of awkward, religious boy band, more suited to entertaining at spiritual retreats or peddling across the country recruiting for the Latter Day Saints.)
And we were struck by the editing of Kathy Griffin’s set. There are rumors swirling that her set was… “enhanced.” There is speculation that the audience reaction was, in television producion parlance, “sweetened.” It certainly seemed (on our 26-in. Sanyo,viewing the local NBC affiliate in HD), that the visual often didn’t match the audio– when an applause break was happening, the wide shots didn’t show a whole lot of people putting their hands together. Indeed, early on in the set, the bursts of laughter seemed too neat and tidy to be real. Three times (at least!) the visual didn’t match the aural. We’d love to know the story behind that!
As for the judges performances last night: That was an untenable situation… as we are fond of saying: “No good can come of it.” The bar was set so high, the expectations so blown out of proportion, due to the previous ten weeks of acting as “judges,” that no comedian could have possibly come out of that experience unscathed.
Unlike a number of our peers, we hope there’s a Season 8 of LCS. There are so few slots on network primetime television for standup comics (doing standup comedy) that we’d hate to see this one disappear. And it certainly keeps people talking about standup.
And, of course we have a personal connection to the show, having appeared on it this season– both Halves of the Staff on June 21 and The Male Half on July 5). People have been asking us if the show has done us any good. We’re not sure how to answer that… yet. At this point, the intangibles outweigh the tangibles. But it also depends on what we do with this credit and this exposure. And that applies to everyone who has appeared on the show– even if only for a second or two or three. Will we do it again next year, if the opportunity arises? Maybe we will, maybe we won’t. There are a lot of comics asking themselves that question right now.
We hope to hang out with the Touring Five when they come to Princeton or Wilmington (each venue being equidistant from SHECKYmagazine.com HQ). (We won’t be able to join them for their Philadelphia-area appearance at the Keswick, as we’ll be gigging in Hilton Head that week.)
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Brian, I’m glad it helped you, but, sorry, you are not an objective voice on the subject at this point either as it was a break for you personally (not undeserved, mind you). Talk about amateur sleuths? Well, you wouldn’t make a very good lawyer. In the end, NBC’s boilerplate rules give them the right to do anything they want. Case closed. The fact that Barry Katz didn’t have all the top ten acts, doesn’t change the fact that his client won. Tainted victory. And only a fool would stock it with nothing but clients – especially after he caught flack in years past where he has had numerous finalists. It wasn’t kosher then and it’s not kosher now. And if we can agree, as you admit, that there WAS any casting involved, then it’s not a contest. In this case, casting equals rigging to some degree and you know it. Perhaps our business is too incestuous to have a contest like this, but I think not. There are hundreds of very good comics who don’t have direct conflicts of interest. For those who do, sorry, they would have to sit this one out. There are opportunities out there. MANY very good comics won’t even enter LCS because of these shenanigans. I’m sorry so many comics have been brainwashed into thinking this abuse is okay. It’s not okay.
Johnny:
If you are implying that we’re brainwashed, you are dead wrong. And if you think that we can’t look at the show objectively merely because we got a total of 8 or 9 minutes on the show this season, then you are once again wrong– we have done nothing but analyze this show, while attempting to remain scrupulously honest, for six straight seasons. And our writing on the show this seventh season hasn’t been substantively different from seasons past– with the exception of being a bit more informed by virtue of our actually having been in the competition. (Of course, some of our coverage early on was hobbled due to the NDA’s we signed at the outset of the competition. But most of our more savvy readers understood this immediately.)
Our advice to comics– with regard to this show or any other competition or contest, regional or local or national– has been to get informed, ask questions and weigh the pros and cons, with an eye toward whether or not participation is right for you. That’s been our policy in the eleven years we’ve run this magazine and it will continue to be our policy– with regard to LCS or any other contests.
We took our own advice this year. We auditioned and we had a pleasant, though pressure-packed, experience.
Your definition of “kosher” is way too stringent and, ultimately, unrealistic. You can’t really have degrees of rigging. A contest is either “rigged” or it ain’t.
A show can cast the contestants and still have a contest. There’s casting. Everyone knows it. We even see the wisdom of casting. Why? Because, as we said in our posting this afternoon, there’s really no alternative. Or, to put it another way, those who believe there is an alternative to casting don’t really have a solution that isn’t rooted in fantasy or wishful thinking or emotion.
Like we said earlier– we expect a small contingent of civilians to be startled or disillusioned by this, but we can’t wrap our brains around someone who’s in the business to be at all stunned by it.
If you encounter the opportunity to enter the contest, you weigh the pros and cons and decide to willingly participate in it, what you experience can hardly be characterized as abuse. If you derive some satisfaction out of navigating the vagaries of the contest (the audition, the showcase, the interviews, the travel, the changes in your set, etc.) and if you eventually end up with a network television credit (and the editing not only does not make you look like an idiot, but in fact makes you look like a competent, human professional), then we can hardly call it “abuse,” now can we? When this season’s regime vowed that they would not make the comics look bad, we took them at their word. When the season unfurled and they in fact seemed to be honoring that pledge, we were pleased with the outcome.
Your statement, “There are hundreds of very good comics who don’t have direct conflicts of interest” is impossibly naive. To imagine that a decent national comedy competition could be held on network television that excluded comics because of some sort of a perceived conflict of interest is inconceivable. The pool of talent that could be expected to supply the judges, writers and contestants would be so small (and probably so inexperienced) as to make the entire venture unworkable.
Quite to the contrary, the show should open up further, loosen the requirements even more and try to snag even more experienced comics.
NBC’s boilerplate rules are, as you have pointed out, readily available on NBC’s website. There seems to be little effort to hide them (as there is a link to them off of the main LCS page). And each and every auditioner (and, subsequently, each and every showcaser and semifinalist and finalist) is apprised of the situation at each step of the way. There seems to be little secrecy. The general public seems to alternate between being blissfully unaware of the rules and blinded with rage by the rules when they learn of them. They, of course, have an excuse. However, it seems a bit disingenuous of those of us in the business of show to be outraged when we learn of casting or minor conflicts of interest.
BTW: Appearing on the show helped both of us, not just The Male Half. Also: We don’t profess to be lawyers or legal experts. But we’re not so naive as to believe that the producers of show are operating with impunity. They have many rules and regulations that must be followed. We’re sure that, were they to violate any rules, there are plenty of attorneys who would jump at the chance to benefit from pointing it out. And plenty of NBC lawyers who wouldn’t hesitate to sanction them. Further: We never said that the business is too incestuous to have a clean contest. We did imply, however, that, if this business is to have any chance of presenting anywhere near the best comics of a certain level of fame and competence, they had better be able to ignore certain (ultimately) inconsequential conflicts. Otherwise, they would not be able to have a contest that’s worth having.
The level of outrage is puzzling.
I’m not on a rooftop with a machine gun, Brian, but, yes, I can’t believe you or anyone rational wouldn’t see my point(s). I am puzzled as well.
Uh… no one has painted you as a nut. And, if we recall correctly, it was you who implied that we were “brainwashed.”
(BTW: It’s both of us who write the magazine.)
We see your points. We see them clearly. We just happen to not agree with any of them.
And, if you are still puzzled as to why we disagree, just re-read our post from Tuesday afternoon.
Why is it so impossible to think that there can’t be a FAIR stand up comedy contest on television. We’re not splitting the atom here. If NBC set up a fair playing field and America voted wrong the ‘oh well.’ But NBC doesn’t even give America the chance. Regardless, it can be done.
I think the answer is that the network doesn’t really have an interest in finding the “best standup comic in the country”, or even the person who gets the most votes in such a contest. As a business, they pursue what they think will bring in the most revenue. Whether the versions of a contest they have been running makes them the most money, as opposed to other versions, we’ll probably never know, but they are a private company and are free to do what they want.
This is the first year since year 2, (I think) that I tried to follow it at all. I actually thought that some of the early material was better than in the past. Having typed that, by the 3rd episode, I had predictably lost interest and did not tune in again. I thought that Felipe was a weak comic. I like quality material, and he didn’t have it, IMO. Perhaps he improved after I had stopped watching. Either way, I always thought LCS was a sham. As long as the comic doesn’t steal material, I don’t really care so much about the outcome. Has anyone other than Vos done well since LCS? I think that Vos gets most of his juice from OnA anyway, the LCS thing wore off. I haven’t heard much from Ralphie or anyone else. It’s not like winning LCS is a majic pill to success. Does it really have any marketable resonance years later?
I might be a little biased, but I personally know Felipe (I’m his long-time girlfriend) and I have to say that these conspiracy theories are ridiculous.
Felipe is a favorite in every comedy club he’s ever worked in – from the wait staff to the audience members. He’s a comic’s favorite, too. I can’t even count the number of comics who are saying that this contest is NOT rigged solely because Felipe won. It’s cliche to say he’s a comic’s comic, but he is.
Not to mention after every taping, there were always people waiting outside to take pics with and tell Felipe how great they thought he was. There weren’t any fans waiting outside for the other contestants (and I was at every taping, btw). Even the crew members on set were telling him how great they thought he was and were pulling for him the whole time.
If you knew this guy like I (and a lot of others do), you would completely understand and agree with this outcome. Every comedy show I’ve been to with him ends with people coming out of the club telling him he was they’re favorite comedian on the show that night. Walking around the mall, on the street, in the grocery store, etc., he’s approached constantly by regular people who tell him how funny they think he is and how much they connect with him.
NBC got it right this year and, yes, comedy is subjective, and these people (I hate the word “haters” but maybe it’s appropriate here) have the right to their opinion. But I see the number of people who dig him on a daily basis, so I know that the people are the ones who got him to this point.
Lesa: Did Felipe have a private audition or did he have to stand in line? thanks.
Of course Felipe had a timed or scheduled or “appointment” audition. Just like we did. Just like the vast majority of professional comedians who auditioned for the show in NY and LA. Not sure what your point is. We’ve been through this already.
I was curioius. I wish we could discuss this without the bias. BTW the best part of the finale was the flackback of Kurt’s ‘MJ funeral joke’….that’s ridicously funny…wish he made it farther!
I think Chipps Cooney should try out next year. He’d be a shoe-in. They’ve yet to pick a ‘mature’ winner yet.
Hey everyone it is what it is and we can’t change that. We all or most of us have watch the show, we laugh at some comics and some comics we didn’t laugh. We formed our opinion about some comics and the show its self LCS. And now that its over we are still trying to figure out why we weren’t that guy (the winner) or who should have won and what should have been some several season later. At the end of the day, one thing for sure NBC put on a show that many of us audition for or became involve one way or another. And I thank them (NBC) for giving me the chance to try my chances at the fortune. We must learn to be who we are no matter what. No show will ever dictate the success I must achieve for myself, show business come and go. The common purpose that I share with each one of you and that is STAND UP COMEDY. There is only one winner in a competition be it that they perform good or bad, or if it was just pure luck. I’m still a winner because I must move past the fact that not this time but maybe the next. So let congratulate the winner because he was a comedian in his on way and style.
Hey guys. I don’t comment very much, but here are some thoughts.
Any time you make artists compete against one another, there will be flaws in the process. Subjective judging, preexisting relationships, etc. all come into play. Certainly, these elements affect the “purity” of the contest. I have a couple of questions to counter that argument, however:
1. Is there any way to completely eliminate these biases? To that I say no. The only way would be to have either only completely unknown or unstanduprelated judges, which would be disastrous. Or to have completely unknown comics, which would make for vastly less compelling television. None of the finalists were not household names, but they have the reputations that come from building a career of good work.
2. What is your goal for the show? Do you want to find the best comedian in the country? Then have Louis CK, Chris Rock, Bill Burr, and Jerry Seinfeld on the show. What they have done instead is rounded up a pretty strong group of non-famous comics, some of the best in the country, and put them on television for several weeks. Great!
This season of LCS, despite its flaws (and to me the biggest flaw is that the episodes drag when people aren’t performing, not any judging issues) did the best job yet of showcasing top notch talent in a dignified way. It gave some much-deserved shine to lots of great comics from Laurie to Team Shecky to Kirk Fox and Carmen Lynch. That’s a good thing!
That’s not to say that the show could not be changed for the better, but people here are really quick to jump down the throats of folks involved, when a lot of talented people are benefitting from it with very few drawbacks. Hooray, comedy! Right, guys?
Anyway, my opinions don’t really count for anything, but there they are. Thanks for reading…or skimming…or not reading. I’m not picky.
-Josh
Read coverage of LCS before and after the halves were thrown a bone. The tone is remarkably different.
“Our tone is remarkably different?” Perhaps our tone is different because the show is different. Perhaps our tone is different because the comedians weren’t forced to perform in a laundromat. Perhaps our tone is different because the comedians weren’t dressed up as jesters and made to perform at a Renaissance fair. Perhaps our tone is different because the producers vowed to treat the comics with respect and highlight the performance of standup comedy rather than set up situations where the comedians heckle their colleagues or wash a car or are transported on a short, yellow bus.
How’s this for a remarkably different tone? Go fuck yourself.
The two words here that keep getting glossed over are “reality” and “competition.” Clearly, neither is the case here. More than anything, I feel sorry for any comedian that is so beaten down and desperate that they think LCS as it is is acceptable. I guess this business just beats the tar out of people…
I don’t blame any comic for doing LCS, nor do I begrudge any comic the success they may receive as a result of doing the show. My beef is with the LCS Machine….not any of the comics.
Of course. I have no beef with any comic that did it either. It’s like insider trading. There is a potential prize and it’s very tempting…
Johnny Lampert:
Your choice of words contradicts your contentions.
One large problem with the analogy: Appearing on the show is not illegal or immoral, unlike insider trading.
And by characterizing the situation as “tempting,” you imply that those who did the show gave in to the temptation… and that that the comics who didn’t do the show refused to give in to the temptation. We’re not reading too much into that to say that it implies some sort of moral superiority on the part of the comedians who steadfastly refused to try out for the show– even though the word on the street was that the show had changed for the better.
You obviously have problems with the show. And you most certainly have a beef with the comics who did the show.
BTW…could anyone explain the ‘development deal’ component of the grand prize? i always thought that meant a sitcom….
Development deals or “holding deals,” merely buy the services (the exclusive services) of the talent for a specified period. It does not necessarily mean a sitcom. It means that, for the length of the agreement, any ideas or projects that the talent might have must necessarily be developed through the network or production company that is party to the agreement. The talent could bring ideas for almost anything television-related. He could pitch a bass fishing show or he could express a desire to be a news anchor if he wanted. Of course, neither of those scenarios might play out, but, for the duration of the contract, the two parties explore the possibilities. If, at the end of the contract, nothing is acted on, the parties part ways and the talent is free to sign another deal with the same network or any other entity.
interesting….thanks Brian.
Brian:
Let’s not jump to conclusions, put words in my mouth and twist the meaning of what I wrote or meant. The bottom line is that most every working comic that I know who auditions for LCS absolutely cringes at the thought, knows it’s bullshit and likely to be humiliating in some way, BUT they figure it is worth a shot because maybe (for reasons that may or may not have to do with comedy) they will go far and it will help them. They know it is not above board. They don’t feel good about it, but they decide it’s worth a shot. I can’t blame them at all. Sure, I have my opinions about who deserved to go far and who didn’t like every other comic I know (which is part of the fun of watching), but I don’t want to go there and have avoided that as much as possible except in the two examples I used to point out conflicts of interest. Nothing to do with their levels or talent or worthiness. Can’t blame them for entering either as much as I think they, along with Felipe and many others, just shouldn’t have been allowed to by NBC.
Again, ONE OF THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER’S CLIENTS WON IT. What part of that don’t you get? If you want to gloss over that and accept that, then that is your choice. I don’t have a beef with anyone who did audition – everybody”s got their dreams and their bills to pay, but I certainly DO have a lot of respect for the long list of top shelf, respected comics that didn’t audition on principal. Love em.
@Johnny Lampert – Allow me to get your “facts” straight for you before they begin spreading all over the internet. Felipe fired his long-time manager last fall and only had a theatrical agent and no manager when he entered LCS… once he reached the top 10, every manager in L.A. wanted to meet with him and he had several meetings – resulting in not signing with anyone… Until the end of the LCS show. If you’d like to take it up with NBC, they have all the paperwork on who he was rep’d by at that time.
I don’t get the laugh tracks and fake applause. It was obvious that the crowd reaction was uplifted for Filepe and Kathy Griffin.
Seth:
We agree on the notion that Griffin’s reaction was sweetened.
However, the reaction that Felipe got was no doubt genuine. We know this because, from our experience– both at the evening showcase in NYC and from being in the audience at the April 14 semifinal taping and the July 26 finals taping– if anything, the audience reactions seem somewhat dampened when broadcast, compared to how they sounded live. To put it another way: On July 26, all of the finalists had killer sets and the reaction to them truly rocked the Alex Theatre. However, when we watched the broadcast later on that night, the reactions– for all the performers– seemed subdued. Not sure why this was (Audience not miked properly? Bad mix in post-production? A desire to not sway the folks at home?) So, knowing that, you can rest assured that Felipe’s crush was real. So, no, it was not obvious that the reaction was “uplifted.” We can pretty much guarantee you that the reaction was authentic for Felipe and for all the finalists.
That was a good read. This was my first season watching, but that was one of the most bizarre finales I’ve seen (and I’ve seen one or two of the notoriously bloated ‘Idol’ finales). My girlfriend and I cued this up expecting another regular episode with another elimination, but were surprised (and disappointed) to find that it was the finale, and they were suddenly cutting five down to one. In retrospect, the elimination process has been bizarre and uneven, when you consider that they also cut the first three out of the top 10 in one week.
Anyway, my biggest gripe is how they only let the final two comics perform, while the others got passed over in favor of guest comics and completely unnecessary musical numbers, sketches and clip shows. I liked the idea of the judges getting to perform, but hype or no hype, a lot of Andy and Natasha’s material sounded like the kind of stuff that would’ve gotten rejected back in the audition episodes.
Still, it sounds like I picked a good season to start on, after hearing about this laundromat and Renaissance fair crap from previous seasons. I hope there is a season 8, cause I’d consider waiting on that long line if they come to NY again. I can live on NYC pretzels for a day.