Weasels in Rochester– Pt.II
Here’s an email that’s going around. It’s from J.J. Parrone, the owner of Comix Cafe in Rochester, and it’s signed by “Comedy Coordinator” Ralph Tetta. It is in reference to a one-nighter in Rochester, the Comedy Block Party, a Thursday night at a place called Milestones, that’s booked by a couple of Rochester comics.
Dear friends,
I have been asked by JJ Parrone from the Comix Cafe in Rochester to contact you regarding the Comedy Block Party at Milestones. Currently, your name and/or biographical information (and possibly your photo) is included in the CBP website.
JJ’s stance on this that he is not interested in building CBP’s business by promoting you to larger crowds at the Cafe, allowing those folks to follow you to Milestone’s.
If you have work on the books with Comix Cafe, or intend to in the future, JJ asks that you contact Comedy Block Party and have your information removed from the website. Failure to do so will jeopardize your future business with Comix Cafe.
If you have any questions regarding this policy, you may contact JJ at jjp@comixcafe.com and he will provide clarification.
Ralph Tetta
Comedy Coordinator
We met one of the comics who runs the Block Party, and we thought that the energy and enthusiasm that he devoted to the Block Party gig was admirable. And necessary– His comedy universe consists of Rochester, Buffalo (74 miles west) and maybe a few towns scattered around upstate New York. That admiration influenced our decision to accept a booking at the CBP later this fall, on the night before our upcoming Buffalo Comix Cafe engagement, November 2 through 4. (So, our info is up there on the website. So far, we haven’t received any thuggish emails. And, if we did, we wouldn’t dream of taking it down.)
Letters like the one above– letters that threaten comics (“Failure to do so will jeopardize your future business with Comix Cafe.”) are out of line. Not to mention shortsighted. We’re the last ones to tell a club owner how to conduct his business, but a weekend club that tries to hamstring a one-nighter is creating tension where none should exist.
We all had the Block Party venue equivalent in our formative years– the gig where you could do as much time as you wanted, the one where there was a nurturing atmosphere, where you closed the show for the first time. But we all knew– the public knew, the comics, the other weekend headliner rooms– that there was a vast difference between that room and the bigger rooms. And the bigger rooms usually knew all that, too.
And where do you suppose the big rooms got their experienced emcees and feature acts? From the well-run one-nighters, of course. And, if the market conducted itself in a sensible manner (like in Boston and in Seattle and San Francisco and elsewhere), the big rooms knew it was in their best interests to allow the small rooms to promote themselves as they saw fit.
Not so in Rochester.
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Reply to: Weasels in Rochester– Pt.II
and just a clarification; I did not form this policy, I’m merely the person the club trusted to get the word out. I wouldn’t have the comedy community thinking less of me.
Although I wasn’t around for it, this philosophy seems to have come from the 80’s comedy explosion era. The former owner of my club did the same thing, it was either work at his club or the FunnyBone. When there were other clubs in the area, I encourage my local comics to get work at the competition. I believe that the more stage time you get, the better you become, so that when you work my club, you are a better performer. All that I asked was that you didn’t take a lower slot within 3 months (before or after) the gig at my club, i.e, if you headlined my club I asked you didn’t feature at the competition within 3 months. I didn’t want the competition to say, “They were only good enough to feature at OUR club”.I don’t ever remember the FunnyBone cancelling shows because of lack of comics, so I am not sure if the idea of working one club or another really works.Randy ReeseComix Cafe – Buffalo
<>Sheckymag wrote:<> <>And, if the market conducted itself in a sensible manner (like in Boston and in Seattle and San Francisco and elsewhere), the big rooms knew it was in their best interests to allow the small rooms to promote themselves as they saw fit.<>As a comedian who took on the role of “small room” show producer here in Seattle, I can vouch for the positive vibes given to us from Ron Reid and Carl Warmenhoven at Seattle’s Comedy Underground. From the beginning of our <>ComedyNight<> project (an alt-comedy showcase in a variety show style at a hipster/indy rock bar known as The Mirabeau Room,) they were supportive and gracious–I think they both knew that our show would help a great group of up & comers get more experience, gain more confidence and try different things–and that all of that would, in the end, help them perform better and enhance their marketability…which would, in the end, help the Comedy Underground.I do have to point out that the response from the other club in town was not as positive. As a result of my producing this show, I was barred from setting foot on the property–as a comedian or as an audience member (this despite the fact that our show was on a night that this other club wasn’t even open.) I’ve also been told that more than a few of the up & comers who performed on our show were later threatened with loss of open mic time and were often berated for their continued work on our show.I’ve always felt that was short-sighted…but, it’s certainly not an uncommon approach in our industry, is it?pg–seattlePS–Our 31 week run at The Mirabeau Room ended tonight, with the best attended show in our run…and for a mid-week, alt-comedy show without any big names at a non-comedy venue and a non-existant marketing budget, we did very well throughout our run. The venue is closing, to be remodelled and to be sold as a non-entertainment restaurant. Even though this experience has cost me the option of working at one of the two local clubs in town, I wouldn’t turn down the opportunity to produce another similar show at another non-comedy club venue in the future. The comedians we’ve worked with were certainly vocal in their appreciation for the work put in on the show and their enthusiasm for doing it again soon.