It's far worse than we had imagined…
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Last Comic Standing… where do we begin…
Let’s get this straight: Larry Reeb and Jimmy Pardo didn’t make it out of Chicago? And a college student who said “fuck” did. Hmmm…
It is worth noting that the Douchebag of the Week, Terry Morrow, who, writing for the Scripps Howard News Service on the premiere of LCS, said the following, after noting the insertion of Bil Dwyer (and other professional comedians) into LCS:
Don’t these people have agents who can get them work?
Including them in the process is more than unfair as they stand beside undiscovered comedians.
Yes, Terry, they do have agents who can get them work. And this is the work they have procured for them. And fine work it is. (Let’s see… as of 10 PM Eastern Daylight Time tonight, Bil Dwyer can say that he’s been on NBC, in primetime. I’d say that the agents have done their job.)
Our friend Mr. Morrow is of the opinion that this is an amateur contest. Far from it. The folks who made the most hay after their appearances in Seasons II and III were experienced, professional and polished for the most part.
It is a pity that Messrs. Read and Mark haven’t gotten the message. Why this desire to promote this thing as a yahoo amateur contest? We’re not clear as to why this can’t be a clash of seasoned professionals who are all good at what they do. Instead of a dicey sideshow where a part-time student might take all the marbles. Have they not learned their lesson from Season I’s Mr. Phan?!
We get ahead of ourselves.
Did you catch that opening? Anthony Clark telling us that Alonzo Bodden and John Heffron have gone on to wild success. Anyone notice who was missing? That’s right– your season one winner Dat Phan!! Talk about your Dat diss!
What is up with Anthony Clark? Makes us appreciate Jay Mohr. (Never thought we’d see that come out of our fingertips.) Is Robert Smigel doing the lips and Anthony doing the voice? (Memo to NBC execs: Just let Triumph do the honors next season… if there is one.)
So far, we’re looking like geniuses… or at least our sources are. Our readers may recall that we reported that the following folks would make it to the house:
Bil Dwyer
Gabriel Iglesias
Chris Porter
Ty Barnett
Joey Gay
Josh Blue
Stella Stolper
Roz
Michele Balan
Rebecca Corey
April Macie
Kristin Key
And what is with the Capital One Audience Favorite thing? Instead of rewarding a comic with $1,000 credit card, just forgive the comic $1,000 in debt that he/she undoubtedly has racked up on his/her Capitol One card!)
And, to refresh the memory: The following were eventually kicked out of the house:
Stella Stolper
Joey Jay
Bil Dwyer
April Macie
Gabriel Iglesia
And what is with Jim Wiggins and John Roy?
Roy: Star Search winner… the modern era… not the Ed McMahon era… (the one where Naomi Judd embarassed herself by saying that she just didn’t get Ben Bailey)… He comes back and whores out for another crapshoot TV show? (Apparently Star Search did even less for Mr. Roy than LCS Season I did for Mr. Phan.) Note to Mr. Roy: Spare us the sermon about how “a comedian has to say something.”
Wiggins: The “alternate” from the second LCS season who flew in from Bullfrog’s in Topeka when Jim Norton was aced because of “conflicts”? Why ever did he come back to the same show?
We’re not sure why Messrs. Read and Mark insisted on making standup comics in general look like psychotics (or, at the very best, misfits and losers). We’re not sure why Buck Star was trotted out again and again. Star lacks even the appeal of William Hung.
There were a lot of folks who were obviously spared the ignominy of standing in line… the ones who were undoubtedly bumped up in front of the line and given some sweet primetime exposure, along with the old “up close and personal” video background package. You could tell which one they were by the relative inanity of the question that Mark or Read asks. To wit: “How did the name ‘Flip’ come about?” (Asked of Flip Schultz) And, asked of Marc Price, “What show were you on?” (Where were ReadMark when Family Ties dominated the ratings and the popular culture?) We doubt that, to this day, even Michael Gross has to actually pay for his dry cleaning.) These guys hafta ask which show Skippy was on? Not only that, but Price has been actually doing standup for more than a decade!
And, to bring on Gabriel Iglesias, just after the voiceover from ReadMark said, “It’s an open call…anyone can just stand in line,” is preposterous. We’re not sure which the biggest insult is: To Iglesias (for obvious reasons), or to our intelligence (because we know that Iglesias has been “tracked” for some time now and has high-powered management and representation.)
And they ask Bil Dwyer how long he’s been doing comedy. Where the hell have they been? Are we to believe that Ross Mark doesn’t have OmniPop on his Rolodex? Dwyer’s has been hosting one cable show or another for the past seven or eight years!
Here’s why we’re automatically sour on the entirety of the proceedings: ReadMark watches Chris Porter and says (while putting Porter through to the next round), “You could totally play a character in a sitcom.” Hello? The name of the show is not Next Actor Standing. It is (ostensibly) about standup. (Recall all those promos where the voiceover says, “The search continues for the funniest person in America!”) The show has jumped the shark in the opening minutes! (Of course, the winner is eventually given an NBC development deal, of course, but they could at least put up a good front.)
NOTE: Nothing against Mr. Porter. He may well be funny and have acting chops and all, but, in the context of a show called “Last Comic Standing,” ReadMark makes no mention of his relative funniness and instead zeroes in on the sitcom thing.
Doug Benson doesn’t make it into the house? (At least, not according to our sources.) We’ve seen The Marijuanalogues. That would have made for some pretty wiggy reality television if Mr. Benson was mixing it up with the folks on the Queen Mary. Talk about your missed opportunities! It would have been escape from reality television!
And why, oh why, did Nikki Payne say that she was so nervous/thrilled to be in the presence of so many great comedians? Nikki: We just saw you in Montreal last year (or was it the year before?)! Some people will say anything with a camera pointed at them.
What is with Ross Mark’s “Get the hell out of here!” catchphrase? It kinda rings hollow when Buck Star keeps returning over and over, through two seasons and several venues.
We have a question: Is Buck Star and Kent Emmons the same person? We’ll stay on that. And has Mr. Mark copyrighted the “Get the hell out of here” phrase, to cash in on the lucrative T-shirt concession when it eventually sweeps the nation?
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I was told years ago that “Buckstar” is actually a production assistant for the show so he travels with them for work
I’ve come to really question the knowledge base of Bob and Ross. From what I’ve seen on the show in seasons prior, coupled with a few clips here and there (you guys have the Star-TV thing from a few years back, right?), they don’t seem to know nearly enough to justify keeping their jobs. I haven’t watched tonight’s LCS yet, but from what you’re saying, it’s more of the same. Seriously, what do these guys DO?
I think Bob and Ross know exactly what they’re doing and what they’re saying… When they ask an obvious question, it’s so they can get the answer on camera…and that tells the story. It is inelegant but effective way of conveying the relevant elements of a storyline.Similarly, when they slam on a comic…play good cop/bad cop…its standard operating procedure for reality tv… Create drama when there is no drama–because no one wants to watch a show where everyone is nice, where everyone is talented, where everyone gets along or where everyone plays by the rules.Or do they? That’s been the biggest criticism of LCS–we were never trusted with a true competition on a level playing field… Hiring the people who compile Project Runway and Top Chef for Bravo certainly wasn’t an attempt to change that…it was to INCREASE the drama, to EXPAND on the “un-reality” of the concept…And for all of the interviews where comedians talking about what a HUGE deal being part of LCS is…what mainstream success has erupted for Heffron or Bodden since the show? I mean, even Dat Phan got a West Wing episode and a line in the Kim Basinger thriller “Cellular”–have I missed Heffron & Bodden’s pop cultural splash? (I think I’ve seen them both on various E! talking head comment shows.) And I can’t believe they dipped into the Buck Star well one more time…and to play the EXACT same card they did two seasons earlier…they didn’t deviate from the playbook at all. Was it THAT successful the first time? Blech.pgreyy–seattle
Heffron and Bodden have name recognition. Bodden is working a fundraiser I’m running next week, actually, and the number of people who know his name has amazed me. The elderly know him. The middle-age office worker chicks know him. We’re paying for that recognition, too. You’d shit if you knew what he was getting for a 15 minute set.So I’d say they’ve gone on to do pretty well.
I thought the show was pretty good television over all – and not only did audience tune in, but the numbers increased segment by segment over the 2 hours, and the show helped propel NBC into #1 for 18-49 for the night (and up 51% for the network from this time last year).Sheckymagaziners take a reporter to task (to the point of calling him a “douchebag”) for dissing the show, then proceed to do so themselves. I watched it with the experienced, snarky staff of a comedy club, it was pretty well received.I’ve always felt, for all its perceived flaws, that LCS was good for stand-up, heightens public awareness, and increases opportunity for all of us.
Thanks for the comment, Ron.However, we must take issue with your point about us calling Mr. Morrow a douchebag (he still is) for dissing the show. We called him a douchebag (which he still is) for dissing all standup comics forever and always– which he did in the course of dissing the show.He’s still a douchebag. And the show still has a long way to go. In the early going, we don’t like what we see, but we have some hope that things will straighten themselves out. Like you, we believe that the higher visibility that the show affords standup in general could be beneficial. But we are not optimistic. (Remember, we were the heretics that said that Rick Rockwell’s prominence via his appearance on Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire was good for standup comedy.)
Awesome assessment across the board Brian, as usual! Let me expand a bit, on my usual Wed. morning radio appearance I was asked by total comedy rookies how much the fix was in. They said it looked so obvious that something was amiss much more than just a talent search with no bias.This is all so good and so bad for comedy at the same time.
Not sure but doesn’t Jimmy Pardo have a ‘Comedy Central Presents’ under his belt? Good enough for Comedy Central but not good for open mic? Did ReadMark just bounce him for shits and giggles? He’s much better than many who were chosen.P.S. Does Jay Mohr have an executive producer credit on LCS still?I ask these questions because I’m too lazy to google my own answers 🙂
Not only does Jimmy Pardo have Comedy Central Presents, but also…THE TONIGHT SHOW! There are several people that not only made the first round (daytime audition) then the night time callback AND were selected to move onto the finals…yet they weren’t even on AT ALL! Jackie Kashian and Kira Soltanovich, just to name two that I know of…It is weird when you see a comic in the background on the stage when they are announcing the lucky winners…like Jimmy Pardo’s very funny wife Danielle Koenig. Or Gene Pompa in Tempe…interesting editing.
Answering Will’s question–yes, Jay Mohr does have an executive producer credit in the show–it’s part of the show’s credit roll.As far as what people have had under their belt–based merely on people they identified in the first show:<>Performers you saw who have already had Comedy Central Presents specials of their own include:<> Tig, Ty Barnett, Jimmy Pardo, Gabriel Iglesias, Bil Dwyer, Doug Benson, Scott Kennedy, Kyle Cease<>Performers you saw who have already been on Premium Blend:<> Gabriel Iglesias, Jimmy Pardo, Doug Benson, Tig, Brody Stephens, Scott Kennedy, Roz, J. Chris Newberg, Ty Barnett, Jon Fisch, John Roy, David HuntsbergerPlus…I know that Larry Reeb, Chip Chinery and Mark Price were all on the old A&E’s An Evening at the Improv. And wasn’t it Angel Salazar headlining a night that Jerry Seinfeld dropped in on in the movie “Comedian.”That’s just informational–I’m not complaining about putting good, experienced comics on television. Just remember that whenever the show tries to position itself as finding undiscovered talent… Underexposed? Perhaps…but not undiscovered.pgPS–I thought I heard in the beginning narration of this first episode of the show that they were narrowing down to 40 comics…but I think only 27 were given envelopes in that first show. (5 in LA, 5 in Tempe, 4 in Austin, 8 in New York, 3 in Chicago and 2 in Miami.) I know that Jackie Kashian was suprised not to see herself in that first show (she said so in her MySpace bulletin)–so, perhaps the other 13 are brought to our attention in show #2???
Hello, I personally know Mr. Buck Star… witch is his chosen stage name. We worked together in Kingman AZ for over a year. The reason he appears at all the auditions is simply because he must… it is his personality to never ever quit… yes, his father has helped him but more than that his personal force of will has propelled him to where he is now.Before this he was of all things a sales consultant for one of the car dealer here in Kingman, and he told me and several others he would be going back this year for another try.He is most certainly not a gimmick or prop of any kind for LCS or the network… all though I believe he may have created a name for himself and even a future in the industry just by being himself, because the way he behaves on stage is most assuredly not a performance of an act, it is just him being his usual self.Travis E.
Travis E. writes:“Hello, I personally know Mr. Buck Star… witch is his chosen stage name. We worked together in Kingman AZ for over a year.The reason he appears at all the auditions is simply because he must… it is his personality to never ever quit… yes, his father has helped him but more than that his personal force of will has propelled him to where he is now.”To which we reply:We have an eyewitness who saw Star humping cables around the set of LCS. Like he worked there. As a key grip or a gaffer.So… either he’s:a. Really, really helpfulb. He wants to get his ass kicked by a union thug
I have not spoken with him for a while and it is possible that he is now working on the set for some reason or another. However, that is not how this whole thing started, this I know. From our conversations I know for a fact he has made several friends in the industry… producers, comics, etc. I also know he is a business man and his goal is to land a TV spot of some sort. I have seen him sell a vehicle to some arrogant ignoramus that no one else could even get in the door. Point is this is about sales, and he will not stop until some one buys him. Really, think about it… all the air time he has received, the promotions, his face his name they are out there, everywhere and people are paying him for it. He may not be the funniest, but who cares when you consider that exposure is the key to sales.Travis E.
Someone calling himself “Travis E.” wrote:“I have not spoken with him for a while and it is possible that he is now working on the set for some reason or another.”Nice try, Travis E. The eyewitness account of “Buck Star” humping cable around the set was from Season II.Please, do us all a favor, Travis, and cease with this lame attempt to clear the name of Buck Star.It’s pathetic and you’re not very good at it.
ok then… believe me or do not believe me. The try outs are over and again he did not make it in the comic world. If he is working for the industry in some other capacity then great. If not I will surely se him again this summer. His family owns a paint and body company here in town and he will go back to work for them or us at the dealership.Take Care,Travis