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Vancouver Yuks/Dane Cook fallout
Here’s a link to an article that appeared last Tuesday in the Province (“Dane Cook gets the hook at Yuk Yuk’s”). The paper covers Vancouver. The article was penned by an eyewitness, journo Guy MacPherson.
The money quote(s) from Yuks CEO Mark Breslin:
“The tradition is stardom trumps everything,” said Breslin, on the phone from his home in Toronto. “It’s the novel factor and the fact that how often are these people even around? It’s too bad when someone is expecting to go on, but you’ve got to be a big boy and suck it up.”
Ouch!
Breslin is in heavy damage control mode, making super-nice with Cook and Cook’s manager. Stay tuned.
Scroll down to see our original take on the indicent, “Dane Cook…Vancouver…controversy,” that we posted on July 26.
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You see I understand that if Dane wanted to go on you put him on and let him do his time. But what about being a pro on his part. Did he agree that he would but would be held to a time. If so what happened to doing your time and closeing when you get the light. I aso have a problem with the line “Stardom Trumps eveything.” Really how about talent. Don’t get me wrong Dane does have talent but the idea of Stardom trumping all means that your saying someone like Screech should get the stage over a Tim Wilson. The idea of that just kills me and for the owner of a club to be saying it makes it even worse.
If I owned the club, I would totally let Dane Cook do however long he wanted, buy the scheduled headliner a couple of beers and give him some extra money, and maybe lay down some firmer ground rules for next time.HOWEVER, I do wonder at what point a guy stops being a comic and starts being a star, because 99% of the comics I know would never screw another comic like that on purpose. How much adulation does one guy need? I mean, Top 10 records, DVDs, a series on HBO, and now movies AND now he’s gotta hog all the stage time in Vancouver, too? Whatever happened to professional courtesy between comeidans?(And yes, I know it happens all the time in places like LA. Doesn’t make it any less dickheadish.)
Woodrow: You had some credibility until you compared Screech to Dane Cook. Not even Screech’s grandmother would buy that one!Timmy Mac says: “…How much adulation does one guy need?” We would counter that Cook, at this point, isn’t guesting at Yuks for the adulation. He’s there to promote the movie (which he’s in Vancouver shooting). And to promote standup– his in particular; all standup in general. And to promote those DVDs and series, etc. Promotion is important if you ever wanna make another DVD/movie/series (pick one). We (you, us, Joe Open Miker) clearly see the need to hustle if we ever want to attain our first DVD/movie/series. Why ever would we expect anyone to hustle _less_ for movie #2, DVD #2 or #3 or Series #2?! Acribing his actions to a need for adulation is a leap. Dane Cook is no doubt at a point where he may never hafta do a comedy club again. The fact that he stopped in (and probably intended to stop in again and again over the course of filming) would have been a boon to the Vancouver Yuks– and, by extension, a boon to standup clubs in general. It’s a time-honored tradition. Here’s an exercise: Substitute Cosby or Carlin or Eric Idle in the story and see if you still think that he’s up there for ego or a need for adulation. You wonder whatever happened to professional courtesy between comedians. We must wonder why no one seems to be affording Cook any. It goes both ways.We’ve heard tales of folks who were less powerful, less popular than Cook who exhibited far more shameful behavior than Cook did that night in B.C. Those stories are not widely reported or, if they are, they are told with a giggle, a guffaw and a wistful “Gee whiz, I wished I coulda been there!”Regardless of what you think of the man’s methods, the very fact that he’s still doing standup, after having broken into motion pictures, is something that we should all admire. How many of our colleagues try to distance themselves from our craft when they achieve even the slightest success outside the realm of standup comedy?
I think the most surprising thing is that he only went 3 minutes over. Something’s weird there.We’ll never know the whole story.
Scroll down to the original post and click on those Comedy Couch (Vancouver Comedy Forum) postings (if you don’t already have the Couch bookmarked). There are at least seven pages of comments, mostly all of it fascinating.Read at least until you get to the unused Breslin quotes from Guy MacPherson’s Province article. The story about <>Gerry Bednob<> is priceless… and enlightening.
Saying Screech was a bit over the top. But the owner didn’t say funny with stardom just Stardom. That to me says as long as you have some level of fame it doesn’t matter if your funny we’ll screw a comedain.
Woodrow81 says:“…the owner didn’t say funny with stardom just Stardom. That to me says as long as you have some level of fame it doesn’t matter if your funny we’ll screw a comedain.”To which we reply: The owner didn’t say “funny,” but the owner assumed “funny.” Because, after all, Cook is a comedian. And, from all reports, he was making the crowd laugh. (One of the major– if not the only– requirements for being considered funny. Cook has some level of fame… as a standup comic. This is why he was muscled onto the stage. Had Jessica Alba requested some stage time, she would have been ushered to the bar and politely told no. (She is not, by any stretch, a comedian.) As for a comedian being “screwed,” we must take issue. Screwed? Really? There are plenty of ways to screw a comedian. Getting bumped hardly counts as a screwing. We’ve all been bumped– for a vast variety of reasons. It happens. We’ve been bumped by comics possessing various levels of fame or juice. How we react to the displacement should in no way depend on how we feel about the comedian who is displacing us. To quote Michael Corleone: “It’s not personal, it’s business.”
Dane Cook bumping you is not getting screwed. That is business it will start a buzz for the club. Ok. But you assume that they wouldn’t let Jessica Alba on. I on the other hand am taking the comment above as that the owner of this club would. And I would take getting bump for someone who has no business on stage being screwed. I have no problem with Dane on this matter other than the way he conducted him self after getting the light. If he agreed to a time before hand stick to it. As for the manager at the club good for him for sticking up for the guy who was scheduled to headline not a lot of people would have done that. But cueing up music and killing the mic is not a good move when dealing with someone who’s just showing up can only help your club. Their are much more tactful ways that this could have been handled. But then we wouldn’t have anything to talk about.